ERP Protection

This is following a similar thread I made, Rules For Start, which y’know I think got a decent enough reception before a collection of shitposters arrived. . .

But the idea is simple. I propose a rule against advertising ERP in your TRP profile while in main phase.

In this way, the server would be more appealing and inviting to new players upon arrival. At the same time, I’m sure Dr3ad and Goudy wouldn’t want to ban players who ERP because they very well could be donating and helping the server - but, during my filming for To Catch a Predator, I noticed that the majority of ERPers didn’t actually _build _​a phase. They don’t need it! And I believe the opportunity has arisen where we can attract new and better RPerss who before were discouraged by the blatant ERPers in start.

Now what exactly would this rule be against? Anything in the front page of your TRP ( i.e. when you mouse over them ) that says “Whisper for ERP” or of that nature would warrant some sort of punishment - maybe donators lose donator perms or non-donators get a 12 hour ban. It wouldn’t be big, just something minor to discourage the practice for the benefits I have listed.

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I like to think 20 likes is a decent amount of support. Combine this with the fact most of the people against the rule  ​acknowledged the fact ​ they do not like the ERPers doing this, but instead they just ignore it and we should all do the same. But on the other hand, if so many people don’t like it, should we not ban it?

I say yes.

If Dr3ad or Goudy reads this, please bless us with a bountiful harvest this year I sacrificed a goat to you the other day

Not liking something isn’t a reason to ban said something though. You need an actual reason.

You ban people and ban activities and ban behavior because said activities “poison” a communtiy–the end result being the place being less fun or unattractive, and de facto losing players. You ban activites that will result in you losing players. In practice, that means banning the few to attract the many.

I think cybersex is the definition of cringe but I somehow doubt the server lost that many (read: literally any) people just because they didn’t like what a select minority put in their TRP3 profiles. It may have been a contributing factor (e.g. someone thinking “this place is cringe”), but it would never be the sole reason a person didn’t join the server. Most people would think RP in general is cringe.

This is exactly the point?

While it is a minor issue, I think it’s an easy fix which can help make RPH more attractive to more and better roleplayers who will be more inclined to donate and add to the server.

My ‘actual reason’ is that RPH has its reputation hurt by blatant ERPers and it could improve with this rule, in my opinion. 

Also, you would note that I said it would be a minor ban. Essentially, this wouldn’t actually get rid of the people just force them to keep it more private. A 12 hour ban won’t keep you off the server forever, but it can help prevent this from being an issue.

I was merely affirming it.
 

While it is a minor issue, I think it’s an easy fix which can help make RPH more attractive to more and better roleplayers who will be more inclined to donate and add to the server.
 
My ‘actual reason’ is that RPH has its reputation hurt by blatant ERPers and it could improve with this rule, in my opinion. 
 
Also, you would note that I said it would be a minor ban. Essentially, this wouldn’t actually get rid of the people just force them to keep it more private. A 12 hour ban won’t keep you off the server forever, but it can help prevent this from being an issue.

Maybe I’m an outlier but out of all the good and bad things I’ve heard about RPH, I’ve never actually heard any kind of reputation that would equate it to Pornshire.

A minor ban or a second-offense-permanent-ban aren’t really different in the end result or the reasons. The question is if this is something that is objectively hurting the server or if it’s attracting people. I just think this whole argument is flimsy because it works both ways.

I would not be at all surprised if many non-RPers first came here looking for cybersex and stayed for other reasons when they realized there’s more to it than just ERP.

stop it

get some help

This is a quote from someone in Discord who wished to remain anonymous:

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I’m not saying everyone who had a thought about RPH had that snuffed out because of ERPers, but I think it’s much more inviting to new players when the start zone isn’t covered with ERPers.

As I’ve stated, the rule is minor, and would more be a deterrent than a permaban.

Banning someone for 12 hours will have them take it out of TRP and everyone is happy. I think they won’t leave, not because of something so small, but I do think it will bring more people or at least influence them to make the decision.

if you have nothing constructive or useful to say why did you come to this thread

you’re addressing something so minor. the starting area is an amalgam of OOC shit-talk, trolling profiles, and people morphed with “funny” TRPs doing absolutely nothing but being weird.

so

stop it

get some help

what does this matter??? I’ve acknowledged this several times

if its an issue it doesn’t matter if its big or small fixing it will benefit the server

 

get us a new moderator, admin, person to be taking care of the start or those worthless reports

ERP is already prohibited in the main phase; you’re filtering out shit if you find that type of thing in the start, because there’s so much shit happening in there and absolutely nothing worth to be in there because of the type of behaviour I cited.

witch-hunting people wanting their cyber cummies is nothing but a nuisance that returns 0 in terms of effort; nobody truly cares; nobody is truly impacted; it’s like those small things people just milk until its dry and then keep pushing on because it has been done multiple times and it just feels natural.

just stop with this bullcrap dude, seriously. you’re smart enough.

you need to calm the fuck down and realize that I’ve said minor rule like 8 times now

also we don’t need a new fucking moderator you retard you just report it on the forums like every other autist

if it was witch hunting I would be getting all my friends to expose them at every point and do whatever I could to get them away but no I’m making a polite forum thread asking for dr3ad and goudy to implement a rule and give us justification to remove them

if you’re obsessed with just spewing garbage you can find some terrible neutral town phase to do it in, please go

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I did it once I can do it again

My ‘actual reason’ is that RPH has its reputation hurt by blatant ERPers

if you think this is the main thing hurting the reputation u need 2 try again, honey

its not the main thing its a minor thing how hard is this to clarify

[quote=“jasp469,post:11,topic:20548”] you need to calm the fuck down and realize that I’ve said minor rule like 8 times now also we don’t need a new fucking moderator you retard you just report it on the forums like every other autist if it was witch hunting I would be getting all my friends to expose them at every point and do whatever I could to get them away but no I’m making a polite forum thread asking for dr3ad and goudy to implement a rule and give us justification to remove them  

if you’re obsessed with just spewing garbage you can find some terrible neutral town phase to do it in, please go

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I’ll repeat: get someone to keep taking care of those - worthless - reports; they add up to absolutely nothing. if that was a concern it would’ve been done already - plus, there is that rule that says that ERP is - strictly - prohibited in the mainphase. It doesn’t add “doing”, “performing”, it states loud and clear that ERP is completely prohibited, I wonder how people can’t wrap their heads around that. go on and report, waste your life on it, by all the means.

in any way, you’re the person whom indulged into ERP to make a thread showing ERPers :thonk:

http://rpheaven.org/forum/index.php?/topic/11420-the-plausibility/

maybe YOU should go to a neutral town to spew garbage instead of the forums if that serves well.

bring me those people you just posted and a decent chunk of the population of this server saying “yes, that shit needs to be changed, please ban the erpers” instead of the minority that gets on the forums and posts something and you’ll have my support and my apologies. again: milking out complaints about ERP is as old as walking forward.

other than that, if you really do want to make a change in those regards, maybe you should contact both Bob and Dr3ad directly, apply to moderator, idk, maybe do something else than being a sofa protester whom does ‘funny’ stuff.

​this is in the dread factory to suggest new ideas for rules are you actually fucking autistic I AM REACHING OUT TO DREAD AND GOUDY

 

DIRECTLY

oh, wait, I forgot you don’t know what words mean

my apologies

wonders why people get scared off from rph 

what the actual fuck? you’re highly autistic.

All three of you are just slapping the OP at this point. Unless you can construct a logical and  respectful  argument against the subject of the post, you’re better off not posting. Because at the moment, all you’re doing is screaming at a person, and not actually assessing his the idea he has put forwards. The only one who’s vaguely attempted to do so is Slash, but unfortunately he engaged and has returned to shitposting in order to bash the post without taking a step back, assessing it, and then constructing an argument that could probably produce a decent counter-argument.

But no. Let’s just wave our hands in the air, screech out insults, and pretend that we’re fighting a good fight. I’m fairly sure all three of you are all capable of constructing intelligent arguments: so please do so.

 

Allow me to be polite and constructive, as I have been.

The mainphase forbids ERP strictly. That step has been taken and shows that that sort of behaviour won’t be tolerated. You’re free to report, you have all the means, there’s absolutely no need to branch off intricacies in the regards of this rule. Unless you change the rule to be even more clearer as: “ERP is prohibited in any way in the mainphase”.

This whole discussion, at my view, is redundant and serves absolutely no purpose what-so-ever. If you’re going on about how ERPers taint the image of this server - for some reason not bringing up as well people trolling and talking about all sorts of OOC non-sense at the starting zone - you’re simply categorizing something from a far bigger problem, which, should be addressed as a whole; in terms of return of the effort. Make a poll, advertise it in game and slap it to the admins, showing that it is a problem which truly matters. Compile your facts and send it. Make something more intelligent than posting in a forum where it’ll reach only to a small amount of people.

The OP has the means to go through with his idea, he can apply to moderation; he can talk with the administrators directly to expose his thoughts; but, in the end, the final say is from the staff, and, if they don’t speak in that regard or even bat an eye at it, shows how little of a concern it poses.